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Subject - An apology for all
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BASE
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I must apologize to all if I have offended anyone. Please understand that I am still a small company with only 2 electricains and 2 helpers in a fairly small area with 20 or more electrical contarctors as competition. Therefore, I have to do exactly what you say not to do and that is to worry about the competitors prices. I still get a lot of my business from word of mouth. I also still pride myself in knowing that I give good quality work and fair (to them) prices.
At the same time I have forgotten that some of you live in larger cities and areas where the cost of everything is a lot higher than they are here. So I will have to remember that before I say things.
I also know that I don't know a lot about how to bid larger jobs. Could anyone give me some advice or literature on learning how to bid multi-family or apartment buildings as well as commercial work?
Guys, this really is a great site. Thank all of you for the great information that you share. Again, if I have offended anyone I apologize.
Have a great day!!
Chris
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MONOLITH
| If you mean this...
quote: Originally posted by BASE
You don't really do electrical work do you????? You just crunch numbers??????????????? How much would you charge to run a switch leg from an existing light that is currently on a pullchain? Help me, I think I am lost in reality of common sense and can't find my way into charging an arm and a leg for just a handjobs worth of work!!! Please make me seeeeee theeeee llliiiiiggghhhhttttt!!!!!
I thought it was pretty lame, and out of character for this website. but I'm willing to pretend you were just having a bad day. How much exactly is a handjobs worth of work anyway? 
Thanks for being willing to move forward more productively.
Cheers.
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SR Scott
| Ditto. Kudos. It takes a man to admit when he's wrong. I think that maybe, perhaps, just possibly, maybe just about everyone here has done or said something wrong at some point in their career. We're all here to learn from each other and its not always going to be fun to hear that we may not be doing everything exactly right. Something that has kept me on this forum is not only the opinions and advise and experiences (good and bad)of others, but also the obvious humility. Were all fighting the same fight. Keep on keeping on.
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mahlere
| Base,
No offense taken here. I just hope that through this site and whatever else you learn in this industry, you help everyone rise to your level, and not drop to theirs.
Good luck. Erik
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jcarl
| mahlere, what a great response, i like the part about rising above,and to base i am also a small contractor, 2 men and the usual issues i find that by calling other electricians i've worked with and now this page,you can ask how your prices are and to have another set of eyes going over your bid helps. i met a new client today that wants to buy all the supplies for a remodel of a house he bought to fix and flip. after explaining that i don't like to use some of the products that you get at the big box store( don't want to say the name and get in trouble)that i won't warranty anything we don't purchase.,just food for thought.
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John A. Peters
| You could raise your hourly rate that you use to base your bids on and lower or eliminate your profit on the parts.
Tell him you lowered your parts prices so you could be in control of the quality and the timing of the materials, and that if there is a problem with the materials you will warrantee them by taking them back and exchanging them. This is almost the same thing you said but the wording is on the positive side.
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jcarl
| thats a good idea john, i know that the client wants to save money and i'll approach him about the markup on stock. guess i have stop and think before opening my mouth thanks for the info.
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lhawx
| Base, Keep doing quality work, be on time, respect your customers, and believe me....word of mouth goes along way; no matter how many people you have working for you. Good Luck!!
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