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Subject - receptical wirring
crimson_tider did the national code change about the way you can wire recepticals. because i think i saw a picture of the right way and the wrong way to wire them. and it showed that you had to pig tail the wires so that the jumper bar on the rec. didnot carry the load. correct me if im wrong. thanks
Ryan_J Wrong. See 300.13(B) about pigtailing the grounded conductor, however.
crimson_tider i dont recall where i got the idea that you had to pig-tail recepticals, but that is the way i have been doing them forever. i have been looking for the answer on the net, and i found a place that said that certain areas may require pig-tails. thanks i just wanted to know for shure.
BASE I don't know what you are calling the jumper bar, but are you confusinng a normal unswitched rec. vs. a switched rec? Naturally you would have to break the tab on the gold screws (hot) to be able to switch the rec. This is called "half switched, half hot rec." Am I misreading your question????
Electricman Grounded conductors in a multiwired branch circuit must be pigtailed by the code Ryan stated. Basically the grounded continuity can not be dependent on the device. A split wired duplex receptacle recieving power from a single breaker is not a multiwire receptacle.
crimson_tider what i was talking about. was pig-tailing all the wires so as to have one wire from each group to hook to the receptical. instead of hooking up all the wires to the screws or the holes in back of the receptical.
crimson_tider what i was calling the jumper bar is the tab between the top and bottom rec.
BASE If I understand what you are saying....there is no need for the pigtail. Do you have more than 2 blacks and 2 whites with copper grounds in the box??
lctrc789 The grounds must be pigtailed of course, some locals require crimps, some allow green wire nuts or just wire nuts some do not. I have seen the grounds twisted and one wire going to the device as well and some locals that is ok as well.
As far a the hot and neutral wires they do not have to be pig tailed togther at all but we all know that they back stab them and wrap them poorly and many loose connections come from recpts.
I personnaly think that pigtailing the wires is a great idea it creates more work but has a whole lot less problems if done properly.
stevenj “what I was talking about. was pig-tailing all the wires so as to have one wire from each group to hook to the receptacle. instead of hooking up all the wires to the screws or the holes in back of the receptacle.”

Your talking about making a parallel circuit for your receptacles. I believe that’s want you want to do. In a series circuit you take the conductors (wires) and attach them to the screws or the back of the receptacles. And pig tail the ground.
The disadvantage of a series circuit is that if one receptacle goes out all of them do.

Parallel circuits on the other hand don’t. The receptacle is only energized when you plug something in. I don’t use the push on connectors on the back of the receptacles because it’s harder to trouble shoot.

Now a parallel circuit you use pig tails. With incoming and outgoing power. the neutral ( white) and the ungrounded (black, which is the power ) and you also pig tail the ground. What you have then is 3 conductors
black, white, ground (copper bare, or green,) all pigtailed. attach the black the brass and white to the silver screws on the top terminals of the receptacles. I sure you have more than one your wiring. At the last receptacle you do not pig tail anything. You should have a single black, white , bare copper ground or green ground.

Hope this helps
lctrc789 You are right by pigtailing whether you do or do not you have a series - parallel circuit either way don't you. If you lose a circuit because you are not hooked in parallel say not pigtailed you are still in series as well as parallel.