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John A. Peters
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USA
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 Posted - 01/29/2008 : 10:41:50
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Ask him for three satisfied members that you can chat with.
Get phone numbers and web addresses.
Check them out and chat them up.
See how many referrals they are getting.
Calculate the ROI (Return on Investment) including your meeting time off.
Try and find some one who dropped his membership and find out why.
Let us know, please. |
Same Day Service 415-239-5393 SF Electrician SF John A. Peters, San Francisco CA www.BrooklineElectric.com/ |
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willyj54
Avid Member
107 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2008 : 07:02:10
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Originally posted by macmikeman
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[i]Originally posted by Doug Wells
your even a member on the electrical success forum the part that they only let us see anyhow. :)
I signed up for that forum, they let me in, I became a lurker for about two months. Then the loging mysteriously stopped working. Since I didn't post, I could not possibly have pissed off any of the regulars with my usual insulting blunt bland commentary, so I can only now surmise that I do not fit the desired "profile" that Mr. Big is seeking from members. I have also survived my whole life without Freemasonary as well, so I am not nearly as brokenhearted as one would expect.
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willyj54
Avid Member
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Posted - 03/21/2008 : 09:21:22
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Originally posted by willyj54
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Originally posted by macmikeman
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[i]Originally posted by Doug Wells
your even a member on the electrical success forum the part that they only let us see anyhow. :)
I signed up for that forum, they let me in, I became a lurker for about two months. Then the loging mysteriously stopped working. Since I didn't post, I could not possibly have pissed off any of the regulars with my usual insulting blunt bland commentary, so I can only now surmise that I do not fit the desired "profile" that Mr. Big is seeking from members. I have also survived my whole life without Freemasonary as well, so I am not nearly as brokenhearted as one would expect.
If all electricians were Freemasons there wouldn't be any low balling and everyone would be on an even plain with truth, regards and trust in eachother and an even line pricing throught the country. Honesty would be a staple of every business and one of us may one day become president of these great United States. |
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Gary11734
Forum Aficionado
USA
813 Posts |
Posted - 03/21/2008 : 21:15:37
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nfsus
Forum Aficionado
USA
666 Posts |
Posted - 03/21/2008 : 22:10:24
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a menber of the masonic lodge. often refered to as a 'mason'. i wondered if id get hit on that last post. but whoever read it and deleted it, it had a good point. politics and comments aside.
go here to read more about them. this is really off topic though. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry |
The person who knows HOW will always have a job. The person who knows WHY will always be his boss. |
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macmikeman
Forum Magnate
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Posted - 03/22/2008 : 00:35:56
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| I would like to say for myself, I certainly wasn't trying to take any potshot at mansons, just making a comment about how I have never been one of them, but have managed to make a life for myself anyway. Same goes for the ultra super secret forum at another unrelated website for the electrical iluminati. I'm sure they are all good guys over there, and I must say, they had good business reads, but I make a good living for myself in spite of the loss of a working membership. |
F--- em all but six son, you need six to carry the coffin..... |
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willyj54
Avid Member
107 Posts |
Posted - 03/22/2008 : 08:16:12
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Originally posted by Gary11734
What is a Freemason?
A man of honesty and good report who is part of the Brotherhood in the entire world, who has great respect for a higher power and country and his fellow citizens, who can be a street sweeper or the CEO of a fortune 500 company and looked upon at the same level. |
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electrichi
Avid Member
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Posted - 03/28/2008 : 11:43:19
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Well, one intangible, is the networking ability of the individual. After my stint with Nexstar, i was able to develop a good group of friends that i/we can always call to ask questions. Life (business) is essentially about the connections/social capital that you develop and maintain to further your life learning. Humbly, it was a good 3 years to fraternize with the group and the education i received accelerated alot of things and provided a good foundation, when there was none (or minimal at best). We all could use some structure and i was unashamed to reach out and acknowledge that i could learn a bunch. There is no magic bullet, but being open to fresh ideas is plausible and i encourage anyone to improve themselves, so eventually you have the ability to pay it forward. Ironically, last August, i was able to sell my business and join a larger organization, so i guess the idea of starting a business to see it get to a certain level, and sell it, did work out as i was taught. So, it is possible, but one needs to devote alot of time and resources to making your business look viable to purchase. My sense was, if the plumbers can do it, why can't we?
So, my new career, like the last one, is full of challenges and i hope to instill in all, a life of learning and growth. It is what you become in the process. Every day is a gift, so enjoy the moment. |
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rewire
Member
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Posted - 02/02/2010 : 18:42:44
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Originally posted by jimmy
ESI sounds expensive. I was invited by a HVAC friend of mine to a meeting of Business Network International.This group costs about $450 to join and consists of only one business classisification per chapter.All the trades are represented as well as all other business types and these people get to know your business and you personally and can pass referalls by having your business card at all times. This works well because you MUST attend a weekly meeting and look all the other memebers in the eye and be accountable. The up side is you have 30-50 sales people in the field promoting your business while they are about theirs. I don't know about you but I get into a basement and see a bad water pipe often enough to point it out and then I have a reliable person to recommend to fix it, the plumber sees bad wiring,panel cover off....it works well but you can't be faint of heart. It takes commitment and some training(not expensive, local 3 hr seminar $15). I'm just getting into it now and already have built relationships.Check it out BNI.
BNI has one major flaw they take only one company from each trade and it is first come first serve . WE have two BNI groups and I am not a member of either and sinse I am the #1 electrician in the area their members are forced to recommend the #2 and # 3 guy. |
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Doug Wells
Moderator
Canada
417 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2010 : 09:41:54
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| wow how is being #1 determined |
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rewire
Member
45 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2010 : 17:55:00
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Originally posted by Doug Wells
wow how is being #1 determined
It's not determined it's achieved |
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rabbitgun
Forum Magnate
USA
2035 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2010 : 18:15:10
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Originally posted by rewire
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Originally posted by Doug Wells
wow how is being #1 determined
It's not determined it's achieved
Wow! I am impressed!
You be da man! |
An analog man in a digital world.
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Burgess
Active Member
USA
88 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2010 : 20:15:58
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| I wonder if I could be number one someday???? You don't have to answer that Rabbit lol |
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rabbitgun
Forum Magnate
USA
2035 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2010 : 20:30:02
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Originally posted by Burgess
I wonder if I could be number one someday???? You don't have to answer that Rabbit lol
Well, why not? Go for it!
Call me lazy but was always pretty content running with the middle of the pack. |
An analog man in a digital world.
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Doug Wells
Moderator
Canada
417 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2010 : 10:37:44
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| If electricians are rated on a scale of 1-10 I would like to be rated at a higher number I think I am an 8 but more likly a 4 lol |
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jimmy
Avid Member
USA
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Posted - 06/02/2010 : 12:12:44
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| Man rewire you must go through a lot of hats. The advantage of BNI is that #2 and #3 are getting referalls from people and places you will never see. And the checks and balances in the group don't let a slacker hang around very long. The group I am in has ousted 2 members since I joined due to bad preformance. It's not a gimmy because you represent ALL the members when you step into a job. If you crap on the other members customers they will straighten you out in a hurry. We meet weekly 1 1/2 hour business meeting 7-8:30. Like I said it is a comittment but it pays off. So 2 and 3 must be doing ok if they are still there...if they quit you can join. |
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Electricians Success International (ESI)
