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| David Hyatt |
In a plastic nail on box how close do you have to staple each wire? 6", 8" or 12". This is confusing to me. I try to do 6" but sometimes its hard in 3 gang boxes. How about more than one cable per hole in plastic box? Is that ok? |
| JimmyDee | 8" no clamps. 12" with clamps. For more than 2 cables I have been using the new plastic nail on looms that allow you to go with 5 cables and keeps them all a inch and a half from the front. Jim |
| David Hyatt | Do you have a picture of these looms you are referring to, Jim? |
| JimmyDee | http://doityourself.com/store/6797674.htm Here is an add for them. They are called Stak-It maid by 3M. Jim |
| David Hyatt | I need some of them, Thanks. |
| Electricman | David I use these stackers all the time they work great. |
| Mike Delaney | The stackits are great, I usually only use them when I have more than four wires. They are about .20 a piece. |
| Pierre Belarge | Mike How do you secure two or three NM cables on a 2x4, if you are not using a stak-it or equivalent? BTW - Stak -its are not listed for 3-wire cables (it states on the plastic package they are for "flat" cable types only). If you go to the 3M website, you will see a different type of stak-it that is listed for 3-wire cables. Just thought I would stir the forum a little  Pierre |
| Ryan_J | I didn't think they would be listed at all. After all, the NEC doesn't require them to be listed. :) |
| Mike Delaney | Pierre, I staple two rows of cables down the center of the stud.. I angle the staples to gain room, you have 1" so its a tight fit. All houses are wired the same way out here. Usually the only time we use stackits are on 3 and 4 gangs. Another method used out here is drive a staple into the stud leaving an 1/8 inch gap, tie rap around the staple and wires. I don't use this method very often some inspectors call it "grouping" the conductors. When I was an apprentice one journeyman showed me wrapping all the wires with electrical tape from top of the stud to the box, then use a 1" drive staple, I can't beleive he ever passed that way....course you folks probably think the same about me. |
| side-cut1 | Mike, We used to use the wire ties method also, but had the same grouping issue come up. Now only use stackers. Any time there are 3 or more wires entering the box we use a stacker. May seem excessive but keeps the inspector happy. |
| JimmyDee | quote: This is what the inspector in our area requires also. Jim |
| Mike Delaney | The cable stackits I like the most are a 3M product, they are white, and have four large slots. I've seen a red stacker that has pre-fitted slots for 3-wire and 2-wire, but I don't like this one as much. I guess What makes using the stackers for me akward, is the bulkyness of them, its hard to fit 'em in the pouch, on the good side, that's fewer staples you have to drive, which make the body happy.
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| smokumchevy | This link was given to me by Doug Wells..... it looks like a nice lil stacket as well that will also hold cat5: http://www.aifittings.com/l_4.htm#CS3 -Greg |
| frenchelectrician | only question it do bother me about cable stacker i know it is set up for 2X4 construction but what you run into 2X6 size or even 2X8 size then where you go from there ?? on the 2by6 set up iuseally have two cable stack up but in next to each other as long i keep 1 1/2 in clearance each side of it let me know if you have more answer with it thanks Merci , Marc |