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	Subject - junction box question Robert Harik My house was built in the 40's and the service and sub panel are to small, so I need to up grade. My service is just a meter base with a 100 breaker then 30 ft to a sub panel in the garage.I want to replace both with a combination meter base and panel outside.Im not an electrician, but I have swaped out couple of services before. My question is: What is the best way to extend the old wiring from the old subpanel in the garage to the new panel outside? Do I replace the old subpanel with a junction box and run the wires from there? Thanks rob Electricmanscott This is not a do it yourself job whatsoever. Ryan_J Great answer Scott! Robert Harik Thanks for the concern guys, but I have not, or will I ever do work without a permit and inspection! frenchelectrician robert: this question been show up a bit in other fourm and i will pass the warning in here this is not the do it yourself stuff here becaue the code and connections are very compated in here. so i will suggest better off just get a real electrician in here and do the job for you it will take anywhere from 4 to 8 hours depending how much it deal and also some other wires in the building might have to be replaced to bring it up the code. merci, marc Robert Harik I am disapointed in the responses I have received here, but I can understand the reluctance to give advice. thanks Rob aussiesparky Rob I can understand your disapointment, but the guys who have answered only have your personal safety and the safety of your family as a primary concern. None of us would like to hear of an accident, incident or god forbid a fatality from advice, or guidance we may have provided or infered. I can only reiterate the sound advice Scott, Ryan and Marc have already provided. JimmyDee Let me take my moderator hat off here for a moment and give my opinion. This forum is here to serve anyone that wants to contribute information and those that would like to glean from the expertise of many that make their living in the electrical field. Many questions have been asked by those that have little or no expertise in the area of electricity and I think they have been greatly helped. When it comes to the do-it-yourself person that wants to have someone tell or show them how to do a certain job, it is impossible to supervise that installation from a distance. I may tell a person to hook up the hot wire in a certain place and every electrician that read the post would know what I meant. A person that has no knowledge of the terminology used by this field, has an excellent probability of miss understanding the given instructions. This could lead to a very dangerous situation for the do-it -yourself person and/or their family and property. I, nor anyone else in the electrical field wants this to happen and probably will not respond to that type of question when it becomes apparent that the question is from a do-it-yourselfer with little or no training. Liability is another issue but that is secondary to my reasoning. Jim Scott Vickrey Robert, The purpose of this site is to help those who seek to better understand the concepts, codes and safe practices involving the use of electricity. We are fortunate to have sharp contributers who continue to show good judgment. These are friendly people who will help and have helped anyone that common sense allows. While trying to act responsibly, we cannot help people with a specific DIY electrical installation or modification. This puts everyone involved at risk. Surely, you can see the hazards of us thinking your doing one thing and your talking about or doing something else. What if you misunderstood us or worse, we misunderstood you? What about errors of omission based on assumption? We just can't see what's going on and will not contribute to an accident because of miscommunication. We recognize that there are people out there that for many different reasons prefer to do there own electrical work. We can even imagine that a small minority of these people are very capable of safely performing this work. The problem is since we don't know the person, we have to err on the side of caution. If you insist on doing your own work then at least have an electrician to supervise who can see what's going on.