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	Subject - AFCIs & GFCIs Electricman I have heard that the 2005 code changes will be drastic in the usage of Arc and Ground fault devices in dwellings have all of you heard the same? Not trying to start any rumors just looking to clarify thanks....... Craig Ryan_J I would strongly disagree. The only signifigant proposal that I have seen being entertained is on 760.21 for an exemption for smoke detectors, but I will say it here now: I'll bet it won't get past the floor. One change that might pass is a receptacle type of AFCI that may be used under verylimitted conditions. As far as GFCI's go, what I have seen leads me to beleive that there might be a new six foot sort of rule that would require GFCI's in areas such as next to laundy sinks. We'll see what happens May 23rd here in my back yard of Salt Lake though. :) David Hyatt Whats up with the new GFI's. I think they call them smart lock? Electricman Smart Lock GFCIs are manuf under stricter Ul standards ,I know one of its features is that you cant reset them if line and load is reversed during installation. wires277 The difference in the new GFCI's is the lock out feature prevents the GFCI from being reset if the GFCI has been compromised. This blocks power from the GFCI recep. and all downstream recep's. Mostly designed for hospitals and heath care facilities as well as commercial and residential You can take a look at www.leviton.com are call 800-323-9538 for leviton 15 amp catalog #8599 20 amp cat #8899 gt350shelby The newer design of GFCI receptacles have to have the "reset" button pushed after power is turned on even when they are installed new out of the box. They are shipped in the tripped state and must be reset after the power is applied. I'm glad circuit breakers don't work this way! Electricman Just got my early order form from the NFPA says expanded AFCI protection in Art. 210 so we shall see shortly