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Subject - Help!! grounded outlets
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MzDonna
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Help pleaseeeeeee .. my son is buying his first home . its an older home . (1948) the house has outlets that are the *grounded* outlets however there is no grounding wire .. in order for them to receive a grant for the purchase of the house it must be grounded or replaced with the older outlets ( the two hole ones) is there ANYWAY we can do something ???? pleaseeeeeeee we dont have the money to totally rewire the entire house
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JimmyDee
| I'm sure they will have to be replaced but, I would welcome you to also follow the other post about house wired with BX. May have some information you can use. Jim
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David Hyatt
| I have to do this all the time with realestate sales. You can simply change the grounding type to non grounding type, cost about $2.00 per outlet.
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SteveMc
| Or per 406.3(D)(3)(a), (b), and (c) you may either (a) replace the grounding type receptacle with a non-grounding type or (b) replace it with a GFCI which is to be marked "No Equipment Ground" or (c) Install a GFCI breaker on the circuit. Read the entire article for some other requirement concerning extending the grounding conductor.
On another note, my code book list an Article 210.7 (D) in the index under Receptacles, Replacement, but no such Article exists.
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Ryan_J
| Hi Steve. I agree that GFCI and the sticker are the way to go, but you are then limitted as to what you may plug into the receptacle by 250.114(3).
BTW: My index is wrong also. Iwas very used to going tight to 210-7 in the 99, and when I got the 2002 this really screwed me up!:D
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Scott Vickrey
| Is it going to be hard for them to find these old receptacle? I have never seen a two prong receptacle for sell. Where can they buy them?
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David Hyatt
| You can purchase these at most supply houses, Home Depot and Lowes. I use these alot on upgrades and real estate closings. Ryan the code ref. you made that does not included equipment grounding conductor, does it? This is referring to bonding the metal parts, Right?
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Ryan_J
| Good morning David. Notice that 250.114 is located under part V of article 250, which is equipment grounding and equipment grounding conductors.
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SteveMc
| Thanks Ryan, I hadn't checked 250.114 (3). Just to play devil's advocate, which would be better, a GFCI with the wrong equipment plugged into it or a grounded plug with an adapter plugged into an ungrounded receptacle? Disallowing the obvious code violations of each act.
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Ryan_J
| Do I have to answer that? LOL
A think I would rather have the GFCI scenario. The nice part about being an inspector is that I somply have to call the violation...you have to answer the difficult questions such as this.  
BTW: Thanks for being the devil's advocate, it makes for good conversation. :)
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