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	Subject - HOW TO WIRE A 120V 30AMP OUTLET STRAIGHT FROM PANE Johnny916 How would I wire a new outlet from the service panel making it 120V 30A instead of 15A? Would I just use 10AWG wire connected to a 30A breaker? So one hot, one nuetral, and one ground? Tmibowl You have a lot of questions on this web site as to basic basic electrical knowledge that an electricican would know. How is it that you are to do this type of work (HIRED) without the basic working knowledge of electricity? You have posted many questions on many different subjects on this site and am wondering as to you job title and what kind of company that you work for. Safety is number ONE. David Hyatt Johnny, I have been browsing your post and do agree with the others. Whether or not you are an apprentice or a DIYer, we can't be liable for giving you too much info in case of an accident. As Scott (administrator) has stated to us, we can't take chances. Nothing personal. There are however many basic wiring books and videos that can help with the questions you have asked. Good luck. Also your mentor should be able to easily answer these questions. If I was a gambling man I would say, your just bought a house, problems arose and you are trying to fix it yourself. My advice to you is hire an electrician or get some fire insurance, because if you do what you asked in one of your post your going to need it. Johnny916 Hi, I didn't just buy a house I do side jobs. lctrc789 My question to you is why would you want a 30 amp recpt. 120 volts and what is the purpose of it? mahlere This is not an attempt to bash anyone, but this topic has hit a sore spot for me. Side Jobs. Here are my personal feelings - it's going to be a bit of a rant. I've been on both sides of the coin, but currently I'm on the ownership side. In order for me to pay: my employees a good wage ($1000+/week) benefits (we pay 100% of employees health) rent/mortgage Insurance ($2,000,000 general aggregate - need it these days) truck payments advertising cell phones gas (this is nearly $2.00/gal in NJ) equipment (bucket trucks, trenchers, lifts, etc) larger tools (pulling machines, benders, power tools, etc) Annual required code updates/education the list keeps going, and somewhere down at the bottom seems to be profit. In order to cover these costs We need to generate $750 - $1000 per day plus material. Now I'm a licensed contractor, my father is a licensed contractor, we have spent years learning our trade (him 35, myself 8) We follow all the applicable codes, get the inspections, make sure that our employees are trained and qualified (this can be a stretch at times . And generally attempt to run a business properly. But when someone who: does not have the knowledge or the experience (technical) does not have the knowledge or the experience (financial/business) does not have the proper licenses does not have the proper insurances does not have the ..... the list goes on... Comes in and cuts my price by 1/5th it really irks me. Moonlighters come in and will charge $200 for the day, but they are relying on someone else to pay for: benefits taxes major tools (how many of them "borrow" company tools?) material (how many of them "find" material "left over"?) and the list goes on.... So, I personally have a huge issue with moonlighters, I think that they are destroying the profession and the livlihood of myself, my employees, my employees families, my suppliers, my vendors, the guy that I buy my trucks from, the guy I buy my equipment from....and the list goes on..... So, I do not, nor will I ever answer a question posed by a moonlighter. I can tolerate DIY'ers (hell, I'm one when it comes to plumbing, carpentry, etc) but I do not do it for money or for anyone but myself, family and friends. Anyone who does work for money without the proper licenses and experience should be charged with a crime. Here in NJ, it is now a crime to perform work on anything over 10V without an electrical license. I just hope that they enforce. Electricity is the one trade where the smallest mistake can lead to death. You do not typically read about a family dying from an exploding toilet, or from a bad duct job (I know there are exceptions - primarily gas work - but they are limited) Electricity is nothing but an accident waiting to happen. Without the proper training I personally feel it is as dangerous as any weapon out there. Sorry for the rant. zol_man We were all new to the trade at some point, and i myself am indebted to those that taught me! They were harsh at times , especially if i did not try to figure out the answer to my question before i asked it. Looking in the code book and local code books was one of the first places that i looked, and then asked questions. This might be a better way for you to get helpfull responses. eleccon I support your rant mahlere, I can't even afford to hire someone fulltime because of workers comp insurance so I have to hire part time temps when I need labor. lctrc789 I undertsand the rant as well. There are many areas that do not require licensing at all that is why you get these guys that do side work. Many guys who can install a switch are called electricians and really cut the guys whi have trained and taken tests and have to pay so much overhead and you can not compete. It is difficult I wish and hope that some day everyone will need to be certified, licensed and insured and that will cut many of the smaller ,less knowledeable, and even the ones who call themselves electricians out because they cannot pass a test. Perhaps this young guy is a newbie and just starting and has questions as well, hard to say. Wirenutz two thumbs up mahlere jcarl two more thumbs up. That is a great post, i recently lost a customer because they found a moonlighter to do the work cheaper,no insurance no overhead sure, i could work for less but i think we all earn our wages. blackrd I can understand the rants. I myself do "side jobs". that being said, I will also add that I do provide my own insurance, I am licensed in my state, and I never, ever, try to undercut other electricians in the field. I am out to make a profit like anybody else, but I dont do it by doing it cheaper than anybody else, ( I also use my own tools). blackrd I would like to add though that the Johhny guy does kind of scare me in his question. Electricman mahlere for president Nice post