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	Subject - Hard Plastic vs. Nylon unbreakable Mike Delaney We use P & S unbreakable wall plates. I like them because they are slightly bigger than regular plates, they have a dull sheen (I don't like the glossy's), and they come with the screws already in the holes. I don't like them because you can dimple them by tightening the screw to much (the guys that work for me, not matter what suck the plates in, when you see the plate from the side, or when the light hits it right it looks terrible), I have a carful touch, but you can't get them perfect every time. The hard plastic however break, are slightly smaller...but you can't dimple them...is there such a thing as a perfect wall plate? kbsparky I've used those P&S plates, and mainly for when I need a "goof" plate to cover the drywaller's mistakes. I use the glossy nylon plates (Preferred Industries) and buy `em by the case from SunStar for less than the bakelite plates from local sources. They seem to hug the wall surface better than the P&S ones. The main problem I have with the bakelite plates is they tend to crack and break the first time you plug something in to an outlet, if that outlet is the least bit recessed, and held in place by that plate. Some situations require a good, solid, metal plate, such as with high-wattage dimmers to help dissapate the heat. -Ken Electricman Mike, We use all P&S devices and plates, I, too like the flexible plates with the captive screws. But you are right you got to be careful tightning them down or they kinda get funky. When I first got into the trade we had the hard ones, nothing like walking out of a room you just trimmed out and you hear that loud SNAP.