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Subject - Stab and wrap
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binney
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I know you all have your own opoinions on stabbing and wrapping, I also have my own opinion, I don't like it! But in life sometime we have to do things we don't like. My question, is it legal to both wrap and stab an outlet or switch? I've heard that there's a UL listing that prohibits this, but I can't find anything!
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Scott Vickrey
| This topic was locked for aproval and is now unlocked. I'm responding to it to move it back to the top of the active topics sorry for the delay binney.
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Ryan_J
| No, it is not legal. Refer to the UL white book.
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CooCooMike
| Back stabbing should be outlawed.
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lctrc789
| I personnally do not like the stabbing, I have seen way to many problems. I know if the device says it is made for stabbing it is UL listed to do as such.
I think that it should not be allowed, but you are right we all have to do what we don't like, and for the purpose of many contractors and so forth speed will always be a problem in maufacturing as well.
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stedder
| I would rather take the time to pigtail even if I have to un wrap and re strip I won't stab, that's the way I was taught and I've seen failures. I'm pretty sure all devices are only good for stabbing 14 wire only # 12 is again' UL and manufacturers listings. I think they s/b outlawed for any size wire. pant pant pant<:~
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ladyestrogen
| When you say there's things we do we don't like, you're right. But if you come behind someone on a trim-out, you are stuck with their rough-in. Switches, I would never wrap and stab, I ONLY wrap switches (If I can help it-old work svc calls excluded). As far as wrap and stab rec, how can you avoid it when you have a three-wire outlet? I had a mech I always had to go behind and he was famous for 3-wire outlets I had to do on trim. I never thought it was as risky on an outlet. -Ladyestrogen
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sparkie2170
| I don't know about UL, but we cant use any device as a "feed through", we have to pigtail.
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